Here's my opinion, take it for what it's worth... I would recommend this book based on my experience, and I think it is great for beginners to intermediate.
** Warning this is a long review, apologies for the typos, grammar, no apologies for this being a personal opinion **
I found this book after a long journey. And it could have saved me some time. And money.
I've taken two separate workshops with two 'pickup industry veterans', one was known as Juggler, the other to remain unnamed. Both were good, from a general view as they forced me (or rather, I forced myself) to re-acquaint myself with who I was, and what kind of values I held, and made me a little more skilled at attracting the other sex. These were better than reading books. But if you only had to get a book, then this is the book I would recommend.
This was my journey, and I think it's normal ...
1. When you're in your early (I said twenties but really, any age really), and have 'no clue', or rather, 'think you have a clue' ("but really have no clue") one might start trying to solve their situation by turning to friends, female friends, relatives etc.
2. In this day and age, being a man who can't get laid regularly seems to be something no seemingly happy male wants to admit to, like depression, or mental illness etc.
3. The place that most young (or not so young) males then look (naturally), is the Internet. Problem is ... on the Internet, anyone can be an expert. In fact, some of the stuff, (and you'll be looking at the free and pirated stuff first) is definitely tacky, crappy, and at worst, sometimes misogynistic, sexist, psychopathic ....
4. Guys 'learn' this new way, which results in 'results' that are false-positives. I.e. People confuse 'tactics' and 'routines' and whatever psycho-babble for being responsible for the results they are getting, when really, most are getting results from just getting out more and making an effort to meet girls. This gets tiring. And in retrospect, is embarrassing ... it's like being able to start a car, find yourself on a freeway ... and then crash because you don't know how to merge into her 'ok, you look ok, and are kind of funny/interesting/intriguing/ what are you really about? I'll let you know me if you share something of substance (that's not about Elvis's blue hair, or who lies more etc). i am exaggerating here, but it's true ....
5. If you are tired of the above, enter phase two. You bother to pony up and pay for a workshop, especially with a good 'guru', then chances are you will actually get better results. Hell you'd better, know how much it costs to see Wayne Elise for a weekend? As the teacher will be able to guide you, calibrate you, correct you, and provide feedback. Also, a lot of teachers are a lot more 'natural' in their processes, than they would have you believe from reading all their manuals which in some cases are hilariously convoluted ... (By the way, Wayne is great)
6. This is not to say these models are not useful, it's just ... it's not a wholesome understanding living in theory land.
7. After you do a workshop or two, you'll definitely have results ... if only for ... 'I cannot believe I paid this much money, I MUST achieve results, and this SEEMS to be the way, I will definitely APPLY these skills...' And those skills will be useful. But do not forget that by now you are experienced, you have a skillset (no matter what doctrine, or method, or philosophy), some measure of confidence ... and real motivation!
8. Hopefully, A few girlfriends later, you'll be a bit more experienced, and wonder ... I wonder if I could have avoided such an expensive route?
or
I would like to keep a refresher on the concepts I learnt at these bootcamps, but studying notes are a bit dorkish, and I'd like an enjoyable read from someone that seems to know what they are talking about (and you may be able to tell now, with more experience under your belt) that might give me some more insight ... and preferably someone that I would like to imagine I would like as a person, if I ever met them.
This is that book I have been looking for - and one I would recommend to a younger nephew looking to 'get in', or to an beginner to intermediate guy like me.
Now that I've matured into seeing the process as something more than 'a game', I was after a refresher. Something that wasn't too serious, and something that wasn't immature.
Enter 'Models', which seems a strange title. I heard about it on a seduction forum, knew the guy had a blog, liked his writing, had a look, ordered it ... I really liked this book, as the author seems a genuine level headed guy who likes to meet women, is good at it, and seems to genuinely like, and appreciate women - without bitterness or cynicism.
I like that It's well laid out in terms of the progression of topics, the author is a good enough writer (I though he was very good actually, in distilling some quite complicated concepts), it's not too short, and he writes with some good backstories, woven into some firm recommendations for putting together your own dating action plan. Which like all good attraction books, makes it a workbook as well as a textbook.
Criticisms that this book suffers from grammar or typos probably arise from the fact this book looks like it was put together by a one-man band in Word. In response, I would point out that I enjoyed the book, and with time, I trust/hope he'll make revisions to keep improving it. In a way, I could have avoided one of my 'bootcamps' had this book been out then, and had I applied the suggestions recommended within.
Postscript, and a little about me: I was at University at the time I took these bootcamps cited above, eager to sort out my dating life, took a while afterwards but it worked ... had my first gf, she being a your medical graduate, then another Dr graduate for a long while, then most recently, a french doctor (doctors and french girls seem to like me for some strange reason!). I was friendly with the PUA teacher on my second bootcamp, held here in my local country, ended up interning for him and attending all sorts of 'Seduction Conventions' where I saw the best and worst of the people that the 'seduction industry' have to offer. Hilarious stuff too. One guy teaching a course was a retired accountant who dyed his hair purple, put out porn dvds with 'hypnotherapy' ambient subcommands embedded into the stereo mix .... Another was a 17 year old kid that brought his girlfriend over, as part of his powerpoint exhibit, to show the whole crowd what success he was having with his own patented system. It sounds funny, and kind of pathetic - but I'm not going to judge. The audience, me, I was pathetic too. A range of 18 to 70 year old men (that's right, senior citizens not getting any were here too) that were being sold the world on 'how to interrupt 4 sets and get that model'. And all the people in that audience, i thought, might get more value from a big man hug, a raisin oatmeal biscuit with warm milk, and a friendly counselling session from that kind of mythical hairy chested uncle that other families have that is a registered pants-man with moustache and bear-fighting history etc.
Anyhow, I'm happy, I'm now now longer .... well ... a virgin, I'm semi-competent with girls, having had a few flings, and a few gfs, and actually have a dating life that looks after itself. If I could describe the whole process, it was a journey, and more than anything kind of a 'how can others know you, if you don't even know yourself' kind of thing .... that is what I would have said to myself back then. And that is ... to sum up, why I liked the book. It asks you to be honest with yourself, and it prompts some self-development. Anyhow, be careful out there. People can get stuck ... I know people stuck in total mindgames about this 'game', who instead of working on themselves, walk around with a whole new set of ideas that have not given them the results they wanted. I think this guy wrote a good book, for beginners and for intermediates ... with some cool insights ... so I am going out of my way to write him a good review.
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Great book, I've read the majority of this book and I actually find it very helpful. After reading all the bad reviews I now understand that most people don't understand what Mark Manson is trying to tell his readers. I came across a couple of really weird reviews for example a person left a review headlining, "Writer has no sexual consent" and after reading 3 quarters of this book not once does Mark (the author) imply to throw yourself at anybody sexually he does advice on how you should make an intimate move after he already got past dating and getting to know a person you feel comfortable with mutually, another review says Mark is advising everything he is against, which is understandable if you don't know how to comprehend what he is trying to get to his readers. He explains his mistakes so you don't make them and what to avoid. It's basically like learning how to walk in way and he clearly states it MULTIPLE times. You have to fail to learn and better yourself. It's crazy how people actually spend their money on a good read that they don't understand or don't like for some reason maybe because it doesn't apply to them just to leave a bad review. This completely ruins it for people seeking these types of books. In my opinion the book is mainly knocking multiple birds with one stone. It helps better yourself as a person, helps you socialize the right way, helps you get the people who won't be good for you in the long run out of your way. What more could you possibly ask for? Anyways I highly recommend this book.
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