How To Become a Highly Paid Blockchain Developer
Blockchain is one of the hottest skills in tech right now. Becoming a blockchain developer could possibly make you thousands of dollars.
Don’t believe me?
Check out Hired.com’s 2019 State of Software Engineers report that shows that global demand for Blockchain developers is “through the roof”, growing at a rapid rate of 517% year over year!
Blockchain developers earn $155,000 per year on average in cities like San Francisco, and you’re more likely to earn higher pay in blockchain compared to other disciplines.
There’s even more good news: the blockchain workforce is highly distributed. That means you don’t necessarily have to live on a major tech hub like San Francisco to work for a blockchain business that operates in San Francisco. You can work remotely, which allows you to command a “big city salary” while living in an area with a lower cost of living.
If you’re willing to work as a freelancer, you open up your earning potential even more. Earnings can go up to $20,000 per project in a single week.
Gregory has a FREE BOOTCAMP for those interested in becoming a highly paid blockchain developer. You can SIGN UP HERE.
You might ask, “why are blockchain developers so highly paid?”
It’s a classic supply-and-demand problem.
There simply aren’t enough people with blockchain skills to satisfy the demand. Because the supply is small, and the demand is high, the price of compensation goes up.
How do you become a highly paid blockchain developer, then?
This is exactly what me and Gregory, from Dapp University, will be talking about in today's video.
Transcript Of The Video
John: So I wanted to introduce you guys to Gregory from Dapp University who is a personal friend of mine who is working on helping developers to become blockchain developers, has a course on that actually, and is also one of my coaching clients. Gregory has gone through, I think we've been doing coaching for about a year and a half, and he's really talented, he's really followed through, and really created this business to help developers. So welcome Gregory.
Gregory: Awesome. Yeah, thanks for having me John. I'm excited to chat with your audience today.
John: Yeah, yeah, I know, and it's funny because people are going crazy about investing in blockchain but I think we both have the same opinion that that's not really where the money is at. The money is at being a developer, being someone who's working in this technology. So tell me a little bit what's going on with that, like what is happening? Why is this such a good place to be right now?
Gregory: Yeah, totally. I think you're spot on. You know, if you're a developer, you already have a huge leg up for most people who kind of want to get into cryptocurrency and have no technical skills, right? I mean, markets are extremely hard to time, this is financial speculation, it's not really investing, and your strongest asset are going to be your technical skills and you've got a huge leg up on that if you're already a developer, right? It's one of the best ways to make money over the long term. And you can basically earn more money as a blockchain developer compared to other fields. And if you want to fact check me on that, you can look at the report that hired.com put out, their 2019 State of Software Engineering report. It's not about blockchain. It's not an ICO block out there trying to shill cryptocurrency products or anything like that. It's hired.com who collects all the data from their sort of matching service and yeah, they talk about blockchain being one of the hottest skills in tech right now.
John: So what could we expect? What could someone expect to make? What's kind of the ranges that you're seeing for blockchain developers?
John: Yeah, totally. So, you know, I'll start up near the high end to kind of give you … I like to start there. So if you look at a place like San Francisco, you could earn, I think when I saw the report last, an average of $155,000 US per year. And that's when the report was published. But you can actually get on hired.com and look at the income statistics for your own area. And the the stats are changing over time. I think the last time I checked it was even higher than that. So you can click around in different cities and see what your average would be. But I put it this way, it's going to be a lot easier for you to earn a six figure income in blockchain maybe than other areas because even if you're junior in blockchain, almost everybody's junior in blockchain who gets started because the field is so new.
John: Right, okay. What's kind of the highest that you've ever heard of someone doing? Because I know it caps out for a lot of development positions, but I remember when the whole quant and financial, I mean even still in New York you can still find jobs that are extremely … like if you're really good in the statistical modeling of options trading and stuff like that, you can make a lot of money. So what do you think or what have you seen for blockchain?
Gregory: Yeah, totally. So I mean I've seen job listings in the 250k plus range, and that's just for, you know, “We're going to hire you and you're going to be sort of in our company.” I mean, as far as freelancers go, I hear about people charging hundreds and hundreds of dollars per hour, especially if they're really good. I mean, I personally charge more on a weekly kind of basis, and actually with John's help, I got to the point where I kind of crafted a service where I could deliver a lot of value really fast and I was able to charge $20,000 for about one week of work.
John: Yeah, that's pretty amazing. Yeah. Good job on that by the way. But yeah, that's pretty amazing. That's pretty cool. You have to definitely have the talent to be able to pull off something like that. But, I think one of the things that was really cool and especially with your business, was that we were talking about how there's a lot of people that need blockchain developers. They need your services, especially some of the companies that are trying to do ICOs, and so they're willing to pay a lot of money to someone who can do that. And there's not that many people that they can really turn to that can be able to deliver what they need.
Gregory: Yeah, totally. And it's a classic supply and demand problem. You know what I mean? There's all these kind of gold miners who are coming in and trying to prospect and create new businesses, and they need technical talent in order to get these businesses off the ground. And it's not even just startups, big institutional money's getting into this. You can go check out, I believe Forbes put out a report about the top $50 billion companies that are using Ethereum for the businesses looking into it. Deloitte put out a survey about all these companies that are researching blockchain and what they're kind of using. So yeah, it's classic supply and demand problem and that's really what's driving the price of compensation for developers. And this trend, I don't see it slowing down anytime soon.
John: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, for sure. I mean, you'd say there's probably a pretty big shortage of blockchain developers in general then?
Gregory: Yeah. I don't know if I mentioned this statistic yet, but on the hired.com report that I mentioned earlier, I can't remember if I said this or not yet, but the demand for blockchain developers in that 2019 State of Software Engineering report was that blockchain was growing at 517% year over year.
John: That's insane. That's ridiculous growth. Wow. Okay. So yeah, so there's definitely going to be a problem where there's not going to be enough developers to fill those. I'm sure even now there's not enough to fill the spots. So this would be something that someone, either if you're starting out, would be good to get into because there you go, this is a very lucrative field and you're going to be able to be hired a lot easier. Or if you're even just a mid level or senior developer and you're looking for something that's going to pay you more money or something that's exciting and fun to work in, pretty easy to transition into this, I would say. Right?
Gregory: Yeah. Yeah, totally. I think so for sure. I mean, you're going to have a huge leg up if you have really strong technical skills. I mean, working with blockchain is a big paradigm shift and you kind of have to really learn about how that works. But that's kind of one of the reasons I built this resource, Dapp University, my YouTube channel, and my website, is to help people kind of cross that gap and overcome that learning curve in hopefully a pretty sensible way.
John: Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm going to ask you about next because that's what I'm curious about. In fact, guys, we'll talk about this a little bit more, but Gregory has a course, basically not even of course, really a bootcamp on how to become a blockchain developer, which we'll have a link below if you can't wait and you need to get ahold of it now. But we'll be talking about that a little bit later on. But yeah, so let's talk about how someone can do this, because I think that's one of those things that stops a lot of people is, you know, I think a lot of people that I've talked to, a lot of developers have said, “Well yeah, that sounds great and you know blockchain sounds great and I'd like to make a lot of money obviously, but it also seems hard and I don't know how to even, like, how would you even go about becoming a block …?”
John: I think it's more obvious to say like, “Okay, I'm going to become a Python developer. Okay, well here I can just take these tutorials, I can learn Python.” How does someone even begin to get started to become a blockchain developer?
Gregory: Yeah, it's a really good question. And you know, I can tell you just from my experience because I went through all of this. When I started learning blockchain, there were barely any resources online about how to get started. And anyone that you could find was so outdated because it moves so fast, you know what I mean? And that was one of the reasons I saw a massive opportunity to create Dapp University, was there were clearly people that were searching this out, wanting to get on this train, and wanted to catch this massive trend, right? And when I created, I put up that first video, people flocked to it. So I mean the video did well I thought, people received it well, at least were able to get use out of it utility right, to learn that. So I've kind of seen what are the pain points.
Gregory: I'll be perfectly honest. It's hard, you know, it's hard to get started. It's sort of like anything else. You move into new technology and there's sort of this brain cramp that you get because you, especially if you're experienced with tech already, you sort of have a lot of knowledge that you take for granted and all this context that makes it somewhat more comfortable. And then when you switch to something that does not work the same way, if you're learning new programming language for example, there's always a little bit of a context switch that's painful. But I've tried to take really common use cases and sort of create blockchain versions of them so that that's easier for you to make that transition.
Gregory: So like some of the more full stack tutorials that you're used to doing, we just sort of port those over to blockchain to begin with. That's not necessarily the best use case for blockchain longterm, you want to graduate beyond that to build really good use cases for blockchain, but that's one way that I've tried to help people get started is to kind of tackle some of the use cases you're familiar with to show you how that would work on the blockchain.
John: Okay. I see. I mean, that makes sense because when I used to do … I did a lot of Pluralsight courses, I used to have one app that I used to create on almost all the courses, called Protein Tracker, which was a real simple app with a user interface that lets you track how many grams of protein you eat per day, just had real simple functionality, but I did different programming languages and different frameworks and I implemented it in all those because I figured that people that had watched my other courses were familiar with it and then they could make that transition. They could see, “Oh okay, this is the paradigm for this particular programming language or environment and this is how we do it there.” Is that kind of similar thing that you've taken some of these simple things that people already understand, they've already implemented these things in other languages and technologies, and now, okay, this is what it looks like in blockchain.
Gregory: Yeah, totally. I think it's a really great way to get started, right? At the end of the day, you want to use the tool for what it's really designed to do and so you kind of have to move out and some of those use cases to use the blockchain for what it's supposed to do. But I think it's a really great way to get started and just sort of learn the ABCs and the fundamentals.
Gregory: Another way that I tell people to help get started is just use the blockchain before you start even getting into code, right? I tell people, it's not going to hurt you to buy $5 worth of cryptocurrency and send it to a wallet or something like that. Just learn to, you know, it's less than the price of a cup of coffee. Don't risk a great amount of money doing this. Or if you don't want to spend any money, there are blockchain test networks that you can use and just get fake cryptocurrency and start just sending it around.
John: I think the concept of fake cryptocurrency is pretty funny actually because you have something that is technically just like fake, right? It's been invented, but then you've got a fake of fake, it's …
Gregory: That's right. That's right. Yeah, yeah. It's a little comical when you think about it, but so, I mean, quick, quick explanation of why those things exist in the first place. So the primary blockchain that I focus on is Ethereum, so when you run a test network, it's a way for you to basically see how your app would work on a real blockchain, not just a test one that you create. And Ethereum, you always have to pay gas fees whenever you deploy smart contracts to the network and basically hook your app up. So you have to have some money to do it, and it's like fake money. Fake money of fake money.
John: Okay. All right. Cool. Okay. So, if someone starts off by actually using it, that makes a lot of sense. And then I like the idea that you've got the paradigms that they already understand, these apps, but one thing that I really liked that when we were talking about your bootcamp was that you actually teach people how to build an actual trading network or what do you call it, like a platform, like a trading platform to actually trade crypto, which seems like a very complex thing. I mean, it seems like it would take teams of hundreds of developers to create, and that's very practical I think, like you were saying. Tell me a little bit more about that. Is that kind of like the master project that they create?
Gregory: Yeah, yeah, totally. So inside my blockchain developer bootcamp, we have a section where I teach a lot of the fundamentals, but then we have our capstone project and that's really where your learning all comes together, right? And that's exactly what we build in the capstone project is, I call it a real world project, a real world cryptocurrency exchange that actually runs on the blockchain. You build all the smart contracts to trade the cryptocurrencies, you build out the client side application to actually talk to it, and it runs. You can deploy it to a test network, start trading real world cryptocurrencies, all that kind of stuff.
John: Wow. That's pretty cool. I think that's something that really appealed to me was this idea that you're actually going to learn something that you could … I mean really if you think about it, if you are applying for a job as a blockchain developer, I think most of the other developers that are applying are like, “Yeah, I know blockchain,” or maybe they've worked on some small bit of code for blockchain or they've integrated blockchain payment processing into application for some company they work for, but I think when you go in there and you're like, “Yeah, I created a platform to trade blockchain,” it doesn't even matter that you've done this as a project, that you haven't necessarily deployed in the real world, but just the fact that the amount of credibility I think that gives someone, that's what I was most excited about. Which guy are you going to hire the guy that made it so that this pizza restaurant you could order with Bitcoin and accepted Bitcoin payments or a guy that actually implemented a full on trading platform? Right?
Gregory: Yeah, totally. And that's another reason that I went with that as the project for the capstone. And part of the bootcamp is this focus on sort of marketing yourself as a blockchain developer. Sound familiar? But no, I think your audience is really aware of how critical it is to market yourself and the different things that you can do to stack the deck in your favor. And this is definitely something, to have a real world project that is sophisticated, and I teach you how to do it step by step.
John: Nice. Okay. So you know, one thing I think people will be curious about would be kind of your story of just coming into all of this. How did you even become, you know, like you said, I think you talked a little bit about it, but what even got you into becoming a blockchain developer and then what's the success that you've personally seen? I mean, obviously I know a lot of people aren't necessarily going to create educational sites on blockchain development, but the nice thing about you is that you're a practitioner as well because you actually are a freelancer doing freelance work on the blockchain as well as teaching other people. But what's your story? How did you actually come into this and then where did it take you?
Gregory: Sure, sure. Yeah, totally. So I got into blockchain like a lot of other people, I mean was watching cryptocurrency prices move. I was like, wow. That got my attention. You know what I mean? When you see something go up that fast and hearing all these people making all this kind of money about if you bought Bitcoin when it first came out, how rich you'd be today. And I think that gets a lot of people's attention and there's no shame in that. I mean it's pretty spectacular. But that wasn't what kept me around necessarily. That's what sort of hooked me in, and then I wanted to learn about the actual technology. I was like, “How does this work?” You know, being a developer and being analytical and it's sort of like, “I don't see how this happened.” So sort of breaking that problem down farther and farther got me a lot closer to the tech and when I saw what the tech could do and also realized that this was a trend and you know, trends are something that sort of really catch my eye.
Gregory: And so I thought to myself like, what if I could have gone back in time and been one of the world's first web developers, right, how exciting that would've been. And it's like, well I sort of have this chance to be one of the world's first blockchain developers. And that was honestly what got me coding, got me building stuff. From there I realized this massive opportunity to create educational resources because I was out there learning the hard way on my own, putting things together, trying to read documentation that was out of date, maybe finding a blog post here and there that had some value to it but ultimately was also out of date and it was just, actually, it was the wild west and still kind of is the wild west.
Gregory: But that's one of the things I really like about Dapp University. Hopefully it's an oasis in this desert of people trying to find information about how to do it. I've at least got a lot of positive response back from people who got a lot out of it. So that's how I got started. That's how I kind of got started with Dapp University. As far as working professionally as a freelancer, I kind of just started hustling at the beginning. I'd had some freelance experience in the past and I knew how to just like hustle and kind of just get started. It may be humbling to start making a little bit less than what you were on something else, just to get that experience really quickly, but as soon as you get that experience, just start raising the prices up.
Gregory: And then as I started creating content out there, people started reaching out to me for freelancing and that has taken me to build some pretty high paying stuff. Like I talked about that service where I was able to charge 20,000 for about a week of work. And also, you know, there's all kinds of stuff. I've gotten to work with ICO projects, people who are trying to raise $100 million on the blockchain, all that kind of stuff, by creating their own cryptocurrencies, getting listed on cryptocurrency exchanges and all that, you know, it's pretty nuts.
John: Oh, nice. Yeah, yeah. I mean it's definitely an amazing story to see that. And it's cool to see someone that's actually done it, actually gone through this, and that you just started off just being curious about cryptocurrency and becoming one of the first developers. Well, here's the big question is, is this still, you know, the question everyone always asks is, is it too late? Right? Is the gold rush already over or is it still the early, like you can still become one of the first blockchain developers?
Gregory: Short answer, no, it is not. You have not missed the boat. I mean, have you missed the boat to buy Bitcoin for a dollar? Yes. But you know, as far as getting into the tech, I mean it's still early and there's still a lot of work to be done. I talked about how this industry is growing and honestly it's sort of like some of these businesses who come in second to market are a little more successful than the ones that come in first to market. You can learn from other people's mistakes as a blockchain developer, start to get tools as they're a little more mature, and honestly, your experience of onboarding might be a little better.
John: Yeah, yeah. That's always been the Microsoft strategy, right, is they come in second and then wait for the first movers and they make the product better afterwards. So yeah, okay. So yeah, that's definitely a good opportunity. And what's the timeframe? What do they need to know ahead of time in order to become a blockchain developer? Or do they need to know anything? And then how long does it take them?
Gregory: Right. So I've changed my opinion on this a little bit, honestly, since I've been working with this. Initially, you kind of have to break it down the spectrum of somebody who knows nothing about programming at all, like they don't even know how to edit a text file with a text editor, up to somebody who's basically a senior developer and just wants to try a new field. So to the senior developer who just wants to try a new field, they could probably be competent in a month or less, you know what I mean? Especially if they-
Gregory: Yeah. So I would say honestly if you're in that position, you're a rank beginner and you want to just become productive in someone's pipeline, I would say the learning curve is about the same as it would be for just becoming a full stack developer from scratch. You know what I mean? So whatever timeline you would estimate for yourself to do that, I would assume the same for blockchain. And that's if you kind of go into a company and you have someone that's kind of helping manage you and you're able to just be a sort of a piece of their pipeline and very focused and very specialized as a beginner, which is probably what you're going to do if you're a junior developer and you get your first job anyway.
John: Right, yeah. That makes a lot of sense. Okay. Now someone who becomes a blockchain developer, what kind of things can they do to increase, to make sure that they're actually highly paid, that they're going to make a lot of money as a blockchain developer? Or does it not matter? Is it just you're going to make a lot of money if you just have this skill set?
Gregory: Well, I think on average, if you just have this skill set, you're going to make more than other developers, but you can certainly optimize that. And I think the optimizations look pretty similar to what you'd do in other fields. But I'll just throw some of those at you right now. So I mentioned I think at the beginning of the episode that the average San Francisco developer is making like $155,000 US per year. So one thing is you don't necessarily have to live in San Francisco to work in San Francisco, and especially for blockchain, it's a highly remote workforce because not everybody can reach their arm out and find a blockchain developer. Not everybody can find one down the street who can come into their office. So the source of income is global. And you're talking about an industry that's lush with capital, especially people who have raised massive amounts of money through ICOs and all that kind of stuff, venture capital as well.
Gregory: So that's what I would say. I've heard John talk about this a lot, basically don't apply for one job, apply for 10 jobs. Well it gets a lot easier to do that when you can apply all over the world.
John: Right, exactly, yeah.
Gregory: So if you're looking for a job, that's what I would say, is don't just rely on one person, really pit them against each other and let them fight for your skills because they're going to do it. I mean, your skills are going to be in demand.
John: Yeah. Okay, okay. That makes sense. And so yeah, so there's nothing really specifically that they need to do in order to increase their earnings as a blockchain developer, just by virtue of being a blockchain developer and applying at a global scale. That's what you say is the best thing?
Gregory: I would say so, yeah. I don't think there's necessarily anything magical about the blockchain. I mean, just like everything else, having a good portfolio, having something that shows that you're a human that people connect with, having video even like this, you don't have to go start up some crazy blog necessarily if you don't want to, but even something where people … Personalizing your outreach to companies is a huge factor and that's going to be true of any tech but also true for blockchain.
John: So what do you cover in the bootcamp? How do you take people through? What's kind of the breakdown of this? I think a lot of people would probably be interested in signing up for it.
Gregory: So the bootcamp is designed to start off assuming that you know nothing or very little about blockchain, but then we quickly move to giving you the skills that you need to be a blockchain developer. So it's true bootcamp fashion. We move kind of fast, but the outcome is that you really have the knowledge and the skills to do what you need to do and become highly paid. So I take you through a lot of the conceptual material, just basics, like what is a blockchain, how does it work, how do you get started? How does Ethereum work? How do tokens work? How do you set up your developer environment? How do you install MetaMask to interact with decentralized applications and stuff like that? All the real basics just to get started. But people who already know all that stuff are quickly going to get challenged once we get into the capstone. That's where the rubber really meets the road and we flesh out the skills to where they're robust and viable for you to get hired.
John: Okay, okay. So you take them pretty much from the beginning of not even really knowing a lot about blockchain to again to that capstone project at the end where they're getting everything they need along the way in order to be able to actually build this training platform.
Gregory: The capstone is where we build the cryptocurrency exchange and we go in depth. It goes way beyond any of the other tutorials that I've put out there on the web.
John: Okay. And how long would it take someone to complete this?
Gregory: Yeah, I've got this question a lot. I've seen people do it pretty fast, like in a month or less, people who have experience. I would budget longer, especially if you're starting from square one. Maybe give yourself a six to 12 week timeline if you want to learn at a comfortable pace. It really depends on how aggressive you want to be. Theoretically you can do it as fast as possible. Theoretically. I mean, you have unlimited lifetime access to it whenever you join. So yeah.
John: Okay. Awesome. Well guys, if you're interested in signing up, definitely check it out. We'll have some promotion on this at the time of this video so there'll be a link, should be one up in the cards, but there'll also be a link in the description where you can sign up for the blockchain developer bootcamp and become a blockchain developer. This is something that, you know, if you've been sitting on and you've been waiting and you've been trying to … You know, I get so many emails from you guys that are like, “Oh, I'm trying to become a developer,” and you've been doing this for three years. Well, okay, here's an actual fast path plan that's not just going to get you to become a developer, but is going to get you to be in one of the best fields that you could be right now which is also an interesting, exciting field as well.
John: But you got to take the steps, you got to take the action. So go check it out and yeah, sign up if you want to really increase your income and become a blockchain developer. And take it from me, Gregory is the guy to teach you. He knows his stuff inside and out. I mean, he just focuses, his entire business is built around teaching people to become blockchain developers. So, all right. So one of the things I was going to ask about as far as blockchain is, what do you teach as far as language? Because I think some people are going to be wondering about what programming language do they need to know and what if you're teaching a different programming language than the one that they know. Is that going to be a problem? What's the issue because we haven't really talked about the technology.
Gregory: Totally. I've had people from all different backgrounds come in and have lots of good success stories from people coming from all over the place to learn blockchain. It's like I said, if you really want to learn blockchain, focus on what you want to do and I think this is a really great path forward to specialize in getting the skills you need to know to build this.
John: Okay, cool. And what kind of jobs are out there? What kind of things do blockchain developers do?
Gregory: Yeah, so it's a bit of a wide spectrum, right? Basically you can start working for a company that is trying to, like a big company who is trying to innovate with blockchain solutions, where they're trying to really be speculative and they have the ability to do that where they're trying to do like … So, I'll list out some of the use cases that we're trying to solve with blockchain and these are the kinds of things we're doing. So like supply chain for example, basically where people try to prove that something moved through the supply chain and that you know its history and that's essentially stored on the blockchain. So it's stored in this public way that people can verify, companies that don't trust each other, can verify that this product moved through the supply chain, it got checked off here, checked off here, right. So that's one big use case.
Gregory: Anything financial is a big use case. I just got off the phone with another project where they're building basically decentralized, which is a buzzword in blockchain which basically just means it doesn't belong to anybody, a decentralized way to manage funds on the blockchain to where like if you want to have a fund that has a certain amount of Bitcoin and Ethereum and other cryptocurrencies all locked in together, they can do it on the blockchain to where you don't have someone else managing this for you. So there's all kinds of stuff. There's a lot of great reports I can even maybe link to them in the description or something like that, these massive use cases that people are trying to tackle with blockchain. These are the kinds of companies you're going to end up working for.
Gregory: It's just like anything else, you know. Also what does it mean to be a web developer? You can work on the protocol or you can build web apps or you can build a lot of different stuff. You know, it sort of means a lot of different stuff. But what I've tried to do at the bootcamp is to give you the fundamentals and also viable skills to where you could go off in any of these different directions to kind of work with all these companies that are trying to build developer tools, to build enterprise software, to build all kinds of stuff.
John: That makes sense. Yeah. It seems like there's a pretty wide level of application. There's probably going to be even more and more adoption as this is the way to do … I mean, I guess you could look into every single thing that we do contracts, and record histories of things like property, real estate, all that stuff. We record things and right now we have these big books that we look at it, right? It's like when you buy a piece of real estate, it becomes official once it's recorded and they have literally these big ass books that they look through and find the actual document and that's the proof of it, and it's the same thing right? It's like they look at a property, what was recorded, the order of the things that were recorded to determine what the property rights are. So yeah, I can imagine that's going to move to the blockchain at some point.
Gregory: Yep, yeah. And there's already people trying to do it. I interviewed somebody on my YouTube channel a couple of weeks ago, they're already doing small land contracts in California with blockchain.
John: Nice. Okay, cool. So, all right, we should probably wrap things up here, but like I said, guys, if you want to get in, make sure you do it now and just click one of the links there. And you know, one last thing I want to ask you Gregory is, what's your biggest case for why someone should become a blockchain developer and to do it now? What's the biggest compelling reason?
Gregory: I think it goes back to what I was saying earlier about being on the ground floor of a trend. You know what I mean? If I could go back in time to become one of the world's first web developers or, fill in the blank, right? It's such an exciting ride from that point forward. And that means higher pay down the road, and now, because of the supply and demand problem and also just getting that satisfaction of like, “I'm here early, I'm one of the first,” and you get to tell maybe your kids one day or your grandkids, something like that. I think it's awesome.
John: It makes sense because if you'd think about in the future, the foundation of a lot of stuff is going to be built off of this and to be able to be part of that historically I think is a pretty cool thing. It's like being one of the first web developers or one of the first people working on computers in general back in the day, or the Internet. So yeah, that's pretty cool. All right, cool. Well thanks a lot Gregory and congratulations on all the success with this. And I know that you did a launch of this bootcamp on your site initially to your audience, and it was phenomenal. It's amazing to see how many people, the success, and then to just to see your success with this.
John: I think this is just another good indicator just too, of how popular and how great this sector is to get involved in.
Gregory: Well couldn't have done it without you.
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